Did someone order a cunt? Coz one's just turned up.....

Like a drunk who doesn't know when he's been beaten Neill Gorton drags himself up off the ground for yet another flagging. This is actually getting quite painful, more so for Neill, since his reputation has started to plummet within the industry in which he works. Can't he just drop it? Can't he accept he's wrong and just admit it? I don't mind doing it when the facts are there for all to see.

So, without more ado, let's put this glutton for punishment out of his misery:

On the RPF Neill wrote: (My replies in RED)

"CT has also posted a photoshop adjusted copy of my picture of the original sonic on his blog claiming it's a more true depiction of the colour balance on the sonic. In his haste to try and prove himself right in the face of actual facts and proof he has actually helped proved my point for me.

Actually, I posted three pictures with various levels of adjustment.

Here is the 'original' with the anomalous RED value on the histogram circled:

This first pic with the increased red adjusted:

This second pic is the above pic adjusted for brightness only:

And then there is a final pic where I have fucked around with the red intensity and then normalised the other color values to match a white highlight from the far left of the pic:

Any muppet with even a rudimentary understanding of color can see the histograms and see that Neill's original pic has either been taken under in an artificially lit office with daylight coming in from windows on the left of the pic, hence why I used a highlight from the left to get a true white value to balance the color. Neill's original pic clearly shows an over abundance of red and also a heaviness of the Green value towards magenta and the Blue value towards yellow. This proves without question the original source pic is overly 'warm' either naturally or through Gorton's adjustment of the picture saturation. Natural daylight is probably coming in from the left hand side and there is overhead artificial lighting, possibly fluorescent. When natural daylight and and artificial light mix, colors become skewed if the camera CCD has not become white balanced prior to the shot or a ND filter has been used to normalise color levels. You can try this yourself: Place an object on your window sill, turn off all the auto features including auto white balance, on your camera and take three pics: 1. In natural daylight only, 2: With curtains drawn, artificial lighting and flash and 3: With curtains open, artificial lighting and flash. The results will surprise you.It seems that Gorton is dispalying a woeful ignorance of basic colorimetry by posting this pic as 'proof' as it is nothing of the sort.

 My last pic is was an exercise in showing what the sonic would look like in true color, under daylight to the naked eye and was not meant to be anything but that and this manipulation was freely admitted - If anything, the histograms show that there is still a spike in the yellow and magenta ends of the green and blue values. It also does not divert attention from the first and second pics which show minimal color manipulation and merely a straight reduction in red saturation. Nice try Gorton, but you are going to need to do a lot better than that to fudge the issue again!

Take a look at the original image of mine on flickr and look at the slider button where the paint has worn away. It is clearly brass as it was made of brass which is without dispute. Now look at CT's adjusted image to get the body colour to the 'grey' he suggest it is. See how the brass now looks like steel. It's totally lost its distinctive colour through having all the yellow removed artificially. Now, Brass is very distinctive and have never seen it photograph grey in any lighting condition. Even in my comparison shots of the same prop, with and without flash, the brass looks 'brass' in both.

Very true, but see my reply above. This does not detract from the other pics. This pic was supposed to be a more truer example of what the naked eye would see under white light. One can only do certain things within the confines of Photoshop before what you are doing becomes deceitful. I was very honest with what I did and the histograms show that. Can't argue with graphs and figures can we?

Also the hazy colour of the yellow wires showing through on the neck has also disapeared. In addition the body is now the same colour as the carpet tiles in the background. If this grey was the original colour and it was somehow adjusted by tweaking in photoshop or through unusual lighting making the sonic look greenish then the brass should still look like brass when the colour was changed or, if I brought up the yellow value to make the grey look more like Heritage gold green then the carpet tiles would also change colour as well as the aluminium changing colour as has been suggested about other photos. The aluminium would have a gold cast and it doesn't.

The histogram says otherwise. The image is overly saturated on red, yellow and magenta. No bullshit. LOOK AT THE HISTOGRAMS YOU DUMB FUCK!!!!!!!!

This shows that my original image is unadulterated so, if you accept that and you do the eyedropper test in photoshop, and you compare with the colour swatch on the plasti-kote site, you can't come to any conclusion other than heritage gold being the colour of paint used on the original prop. No hocus pocus, smoke and mirrors, wild conspiracies and conjecture just actual images of actual props and a simple test you can do yourself with any image manipulation software.

This is such a flawed, nonsense test and was not the test you originally suggested. How can you do a test like this when the source of the color is an image that is quantitatively proven by the Histograms to be overly saturated?

Orange_Blend actually did the photoshop test and it proves what colours you are dealing with in the images. Have a look at the heritage gold colour swatch on the plasti-kote website and compare it to Orange_blends results.

Orange Blend is a cretin. That test I have performed myself and the results I have posted here:

http://celestialtoystore.blogspot.com/2010/06/riddle-me-this-when-you-reach-rock.html

I have proven that the paint on both the Laser screwdriver and the sonic could be the same paint. They are certainly not different enough in the RGB as even spots of the SAME color such as various points on white paper and two spots on the same paint on the same prop exhibit RGB value variances far in excess of the minor RGB value variances between the paint on the laser and sonic screwdrivers. HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT ONE YOU DUMB STUBBORN PRICK?

Btw, the Plastikote swatches are of the topcoat alone. If you truly painted all 500 MFX sonics by yourself you will realise the nonsense that this is. The basecoat and underlying material greatly affects the color. In fact, the only way you can get the Heritage Gold color as seen on the Plastikote site is to omit the basecoat and paint the topcoat onto white paper. The other thing, that is even more important, is that the Plasti-Kote swatches are not true colors. Look at the crackle: they are exactly the same! The color has just been color picked and artificially rendered using Photoshop!!!!!!!!!!

 Everyone out there who has access to Plastikote Heritage Gold should try it to prove to themselves I am not talking bullshit.

In case there is any doubt, here's yet another case of the famous Gorton gob overtaking commonsense and basic empirical and quantitative evidence as proven by your's truly:

Here's the RGB read for the color on the prop from Neill's pic:

R: 114
G: 111
B: 70

Here's the RGB reading for the Heritage Gold swatch from the Plasti-Kote site:

R: 205

G:189

B:129

And here's the RGB reading for Colony Cream from the same site:

R: 249

G: 239

B: 203

What  can we gather from this? The color in the Neill's pic is does not match either color from the Plasti-Kote site. They are not even close, say within 30 points out? (Like the differential between the paint on the laser and sonic screwdrivers, for example?). No they are not even in the same ballpark as they are DIFFERENT colors. Since we know it is Plasti-Kote, we can safely say that the colors on the Plasti-Kote site bear no resemblance to the real world appearance of these colors which renders both that Orange Blend cunt's argument and Gorton's argument utterly redundant. You could argue that the RGB values are closer to Heritage Gold than Colony Cream but that still does not make it Heritage Gold. It is like saying a cat is a dog rather than a lizard because they share more in common. That may be the case but they are not the same are they? Anyway, this is not even an equal like for like RGB comparison as Neill's pic needs to be corrected for the red saturation first.

Even if you move the goalposts, I still score, see? That's because I'm not a beardy twat who makes things up as he goes along.

If anyone genuinely can't see the colours then also do the photoshop test and see for yourself. Also look at the original image and CT's photoshop adjusted image and see how, when adjusted in photoshop, all the the other aspects change and become wrong. The simple fact is you can't take a grey object and make it look green without throwning the colours on the aluminium, brass and everything around it, including the skin on my hand in the picture which is totally drained of red, well out of whack and CT's own adjusting of the original proves this. "

Gorton, you are grasping onto one image that I admitted to manipulating. What about the rest? What about the RGB values between  the laser and sonic screwdrivers you were harping on about? You are like a man drowning clutching at the first straw that floats your way. I have risen to your challenge, I have done the Photoshop analysis as you requested but you have ignored my results in favor of a throwaway incidental piece of color correction which I freely admitted to doing and the results of which I have shared. Be a man, where's your fucking pride? Either front up or fuck off. Disprove my Photoshop findings. I challenge you. I fucking dare you. You told me to do the test. I did it. Now you ignore it because the results make you look like a cardboard cutout cunt. There's a nasty smell in here and that is usually a signal to flush the toilet.

Neill Gorton, you are a pathetic little loser.

Addendum: Here something MFX owners can do at home.

Remember this pic of the Season 4 prop in the art department workshop?

Look towards the left and you will see one of these:

Yes, a commonly available twin tip Sharpie with a light grey body! Look at the body of the sonic. Similar grey, right? Now see if any of you can take a picture of the MFX and the Sharpie and get them looking grey as in the above shot. You can't. If anything, having the two together should ram home the fact that they are TWO DIFFERENT COLORS!!!!!! One is undoubtedly in the grey family of colors and the other is in the yellow family of colors.

Your move Gorton.